“Misandry don’t real!” Evidence to the contrary

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  1. George Maxwell says:

    et me quote here –
    “while there are aspects of MRA that are worth bringing to light, as a movement it can suck a good man down a rabbit hole of resentment. It is backward-looking and pining for good old days that never were.

    Are there some problems with specific instances of unequal treatment? Yes. Is there some anti-male sentiment out there? Yeah, that happens too. But turning these issues into a movement is laughable. It is a like a multi-millionaire who whines that a tax loophole was closed and he’s losing 0.5% of his annual income.

    Men, especially white men, aren’t marginalized, we aren’t under attack, and we not in danger of losing the overwhelming privileges society bestows upon us for having pale skin and a penis. However, MRAs have been described as whining children by the women they call “feminist bitches.”
    So to any man who feels like he’s getting caught up in such a movement because they feel emasculated or are just having trouble relating to women and perhaps sympathizing with Elliot Rodger, I will tell you this: Life isn’t fair. Life is NOT fair.

    Women will judge you. Some will judge you based on your appearance, your height, your width, you genitalia, your wealth, your car, your clothes, your acne. In other words, they will judge you the exact same way you judge them.

    We all know that men’s rights activists are insecure — that’s pretty much the only thing the rest of the world agrees with them on. If you go to /MensRights, /TheRedPill, or any pickup artist or anti-pickup artist blogs, you’ll see people promising to help them be better as men. It’s an open invitation to celebrate manliness, like they’re the last place on Earth where you can still talk about guns and boobs and tanks and video games.But it’s a trick, because that’s not what these places are really about. Check out the very first sentence on a list of the Red Pill’s “fundamental beliefs”:

    Feminists claim they want equality but what they really want is power without responsibility.

    Weird … that doesn’t have anything to do with men at all — it’s about women. Let’s keep going:

    Women are irrational and inconsistent. … A logical woman is easily baited into becoming emotional; women are easy to compromise.

    Women are Machiavellian in nature, this means they are comparatively proficient at being manipulative versus the typical male.

    Women love pragmatically and have no capacity to love unconditionally for romantic partners.Yes, this shit is internally contradictory and sexist as fuck, but more importantly, it has nothing to do with men. There’s no waxing poetic on the joys of fatherhood, the majesty of a properly groomed beard, or the exquisite joy of scratching your own balls; it’s all just variations of “fuck dem bitches” and “amiright!?” It’s not an ideology, it’s just them feeling bad about themselves and directing that hatred elsewhere … which is exactly how a hate group works. And that’s not just my opinion.”

    YOU MRA’s ARE A BLOODY BUNCH OF LOSERS!I’M GLAD I QUIT THE MOVEMENT BEFORE THEY MADE ME INTO A MISOGYNIST!

    Change your header caption from “equality to all” to ” Let men rule”
    Hypocrites all of you.

    Lets see if u have the balls to publish this comment on your blog, which by the way is nothing but filth!

    • Francis Roy says:

      [L]et me quote here –
      “while there are aspects of MRA that are worth bringing to light, as a movement it can suck a good man down a rabbit hole of resentment. It is backward-looking and pining for good old days that never were.

      Who are you quoting? Source, please? I’m glad that you acknowledge that there are issues worth bringing to light. Can you name them? Can you describe why they’re worth bringing to light? Please do so.

      To claim that a movement, such as the Men’s Rights Movement can suck a man down a rabbit hole of resentment is as accurate as saying that as a movement, Feminism can suck a man or a woman down a hole of resentment. Any body of ideas can focus on the positive or negative, it is up to the individual, who has full agency over his or her mind to manage it. Do you agree?

      As for looking backwards and pining for the “good old days that never were”, I’m sure there are some, but I’m not one of them. I’ve never believed that “the good old days” ever were good old days. They were ordinary days in ordinary lives as it ever has been in history. Do you believe being a man in the times of roman gladiators were “the good old days?” How about the life of a young boy that gave his life in war?

      Are there some problems with specific instances of unequal treatment? Yes. Is there some anti-male sentiment out there? Yeah, that happens too.

      And I take it that you have an issue with addressing these problems? Would you take issue with addressing anyone else’s problems? How do we make this a better world unless one of the tasks that people take on is to resolve problems?

      But turning these issues into a movement is laughable. It is a like a multi-millionaire who whines that a tax loophole was closed and he’s losing 0.5% of his annual income.

      You err with a strawman argument, that is, you focus on what you believe was some form of highlight for the upper-crust of society (whilst ignoring women’s advantages and men’s disadvantages) then apply it across time, the globe and social classes. That’s just fuzzy thinking on your part.

      Men, especially white men, aren’t marginalized, we aren’t under attack, and we not in danger of losing the overwhelming privileges society bestows upon us for having pale skin and a penis. However, MRAs have been described as whining children by the women they call “feminist bitches.”
      So to any man who feels like he’s getting caught up in such a movement because they feel emasculated or are just having trouble relating to women and perhaps sympathizing with Elliot Rodger, I will tell you this: Life isn’t fair. Life is NOT fair.

      Please quote where I’ve made the claim that men are marginalized. However, men, as a class are under attack in the form of social messages that denigrate men and boys, in the form of laws that are not enforced impartially, or that target men directly or indirectly. Those in the Men’s Rights Movement seek to address those issues. Do you have a problem with laws being enforced impartially? Do you have a problem with speaking back to those who make absurd claims about men and boys? Further, you ignore that most white-skinned males are simply common men, having some privileges and some disadvantages, just as women of any skin colour have.

      However, MRAs have been described as whining children by the women they call “feminist bitches.”

      And? Name a group of humans in existence that have not been called names. How is this relevant to the point of men’s rights or social issues?

      So to any man who feels like he’s getting caught up in such a movement because they feel emasculated or are just having trouble relating to women and perhaps sympathizing with Elliot Rodger, I will tell you this: Life isn’t fair. Life is NOT fair.

      If this is the audience you’re targeting, you’ve come to the wrong place.

      Women will judge you. Some will judge you based on your appearance, your height, your width, you genitalia, your wealth, your car, your clothes, your acne. In other words, they will judge you the exact same way you judge them.

      And correspondingly, men will judge other men and women as women do men and other women. Are you claiming that this is a problem, or that it is not a problem? If the former, what solution do you offer? If the latter, what is the point of your statement?

      We all know that men’s rights activists are insecure — that’s pretty much the only thing the rest of the world agrees with them on. If you go to /MensRights, /TheRedPill, or any pickup artist or anti-pickup artist blogs, you’ll see people promising to help them be better as men. It’s an open invitation to celebrate manliness, like they’re the last place on Earth where you can still talk about guns and boobs and tanks and video games.But it’s a trick, because that’s not what these places are really about. Check out the very first sentence on a list of the Red Pill’s “fundamental beliefs”:

      We all know that men’s rights activists are insecure — that’s pretty much the only thing the rest of the world agrees with them on.

      That’s quite the assumption. On what do you base it? More importantly, what relevance does this have to the issues? If you are claiming that the issues that we address are invalid because of who we are, then you’re guilty of an ad hominem argument.

      If you go to /MensRights, /TheRedPill, or any pickup artist or anti-pickup artist blogs, you’ll see people promising to help them be better as men.

      So? You can find the same sort of advice in women’s magazines such as Cosmo or Vogue. By the way, be aware that there are clear distinctions that separate MGTOW, MRA’s, PUAs, etc. You aren’t even addressing the same groups. You should learn who the players are, and what each group stands for, rather than ignorantly lumping them all as one group.

      Check out the very first sentence on a list of the Red Pill’s “fundamental beliefs”:

      You’ve just demonstrated that you have not taken the time to read anything on my blog. I address these kind of issues across my blog.

      “George Maxwell” quoting a forum that I don’t frequent: [insert a bunch of claims made by non-MRAs]

      So? Again with the strawman arguments. I once had a neighbour that made the following claims: 1. Black people are lazy; 2. the government is out to get you; 3. the world is controlled by multinationals.

      By your logic, this means that you personally despise humanity.

      Does this make any sense whatsoever to you?

      Why don’t you address the claims that I make? That would make sense, wouldn’t it?

      YOU MRA’s ARE A BLOODY BUNCH OF LOSERS!I’M GLAD I QUIT THE MOVEMENT BEFORE THEY MADE ME INTO A MISOGYNIST!

      So, non-MRA’s make certain claims, you ascribe them to ALL MRAs, presumably under the assumption that we are lock-step in a hive-mind mentality, you don’t bother reading what I actually write, you don’t ask what my thoughts are, then, under such an assumption proceed to lump me into this unrefined blob of a term, call me names. Do you expect me to take you seriously? By the way: please give a clear and concise description of the attributes that makes a human being “a loser”, in a sense that is measurable. We’ll then proceed to examine whether your claim that I am such a person is accurate or not.

      Change your header caption from “equality to all” to ” Let men rule”
      Hypocrites all of you.

      As I suspected, you’re Akriti using another anonymous name. Same region of India, same rambling style, same incoherence.

      Lets see if u have the balls to publish this comment on your blog, which by the way is nothing but filth!

      You seem to think that publishing a response to the incoherent ramblings is some sort of challenge. It isn’t. What it is is an opportunity to demonstrate to the world what those who oppose the men’s rights movement looks like: incoherent, uneducated on the issues, the players, illogical, ignorant and lacking in the most fundamental of social graces.

      Look, if you really want to mount a proper attack, you need to have some basics.

      1. Know the issues.

      2. Know the players.

      3. Formulate a real-world, evidentially based and logically sound argument.

      4. Express that argument concisely. If you are making a counter-argument to one that I’ve made, source it, please.

      5. I’d prefer that you use your real name and email address. I do, and if you choose to be my interlocutor, it would help me take you more seriously.

      6. Good manners are a plus.

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