… for free!
Hahaha! Too funny!
… for free!
Hahaha! Too funny!
How to be popular.
Never disagree with people. Agree with them, even when what they say is nonsensical bullshit. Nod your head sagely when ideological dogma is spouted. Call someone wise when they spout platitudes. Pat them on the back for making an emotional argument. Like their nonsense facebook posts. Do not ever rock the boat, or give the slightest indication that they are not brilliant beyond the wisest of us when they post images that can be debunked with less that three seconds of thought.
Go with the flow. Make people feel good. Nod your head. Pat their back. Stroke their ego. Give them a like, a +1 or re-tweet. Should you be daring enough to post something, make your subject no more offensive than your gardening results. Take care not to use words like “organic”, unless you know they like “organic”–just put colourful, focused and inoffensive pretty pictures for people to respond with a Pavlovian “like.” Puppies are good, but kittens are better. If you have tits, show them. That’s all it takes.
Nod and agree. Nod and agree.
Or put a bullet in your brain
This one is for my friend, an excellent man, kind, sensitive, talented, and I believe, good to the bone. He is sensitive in the best of ways and so feels uncomfortable when out-of-the-norms conversations come up.
Empathy is a two-way street. The current cultural narrative is one where certain classes of people are put upon by those who are perceived as being advantaged in life. The key word is “perceived.” I have spent my life listening to people telling me their side of the story. I know it well, and am willing to bet that if I cannot, on the spot, be an excellent advocate for their point of view, that I could do so in very short order. Put me to the test. Remember my friends, I do, and have lived among you. Some of you are my family, others are excellent friends.
These are the same people who would tell me that because I am white, because I am straight, because I am male, because I am this, that or the other that somehow, I should not speak up.
Few have bothered to ask if I, or those of my “class” have our share of ups and downs, advantages and disadvantages. Those few who have asked, typically don’t listen to hear, but to challenge, to place my experiences on the scale of their point of view, rather than to weigh them on a more universal, impartial, fully human and empathetic one where we can all come to a deeper understanding and hopefully, a better relationship. Few, I believe could advocate well for my position. When people put up facebook posts that imply that certain people are a victim class, to others who are the oppressor class, I feel uncomfortable, because not only do they tend to one-sided, they are often based on demonstrably false ideas. When I speak to it, I am told to “hush.” It’s a very gentle and soft way to say “shut up, your words should not be spoken.”
Rocking the boat makes people feel uncomfortable. We should not make our friends or family feel uncomfortable. Do you care if I’m uncomfortable? Or do simply you want me to like a post and move on, ’cause that means I care about you. When I challenge ideas, I am challenging ideas, not your dignity, or value, or worth as a human being. I challenge the ideas that assault my dignity as a human being. Would you be willing to abandon a friendship because talk makes you uncomfortable? I value my relationships _because_ we can talk about uncomfortable subjects.
My question is: Why should I be quiet? It is a sincere question, that I would like to discuss honestly among good people that I genuinely consider friends.
If you want to take this up in private that’s fine by me.
For those of you familiar with MGTOW or “Men Going Their Own Way,” this idea will not be new to you.
This website essentially exists for three reasons:
1. To create a stronger language bond between females. This site is made by women for women! Nothing typed will be said in acknowledgement of male readers; the equal and opposite of MGTOW spaces.
2. As a way that I can reach out to find possibly interested women that want to start a discussion that looks for positive ideas
3. To perhaps help current feminists consider a different point of view, one that has more life in the long run.
I’m sure that the women who did this think of themselves as fair, and honest and good willed. They appear to be anti-Feminist and don’t want to trample on men.
I can only ask myself “What the fuck are you thinking? What is wrong with you?”
This website and its intent is an abomination to me.
It is a me-too, mindless bandwagon jump from women who have no good sense, zero originality and the immature drive to belong to something for no reason other than it is gaining popularity.
This is a pattern that we see from women, often: “Oh! Look! Something popular! There’s fun and entertainment being had without me! I want my fun! I want to be part of it! For men only? Doesn’t matter! Let us into the locker-room! We want in! Gimme gimme gimme!”
You are the selfish and clingy girlfriend who insists on showing up at her boyfriend’s night out with the boys. It’s not even that you want to be there, it’s that you want to feel self-important and believe that you have the power to make yourself accepted, even when you aren’t.
We aren’t going to politely tolerate you. Get the fuck out.
Sincerely: Fuck off! Go away. You are unwanted and unwelcome. You are intruding. You are out of place. You are an uncomfortable and unwanted weight. We don’t want you around.
We see what you’re doing, even if you haven’t got the self-awareness to notice: you are doing that whole cultural appropriation thing that women do: smile, infest, invade and absorb. It is the plausible deniability of the dull-witted copy-cat. “I’m not going your way! I’m just walking mine! It just so happens that my way is wherever you are! Nyah!” You’re hoping that we’ll be polite with you just long enough to get use to it and give up. No.
Go away. Seriously.
You are trying to crash our party, the guests are walking away from you, and you are obnoxiously trying to inject yourself into a group that is telling you that your presence is a displeasure.
Men Going Their Own Way is a movement based on getting away from the potential danger that women bring. Lets be clear: We like you as people, we appreciate you as a person, and you are potentially dangerous. Now get the fuck out of our space.
I am trying every trick that I know of to express the utter contempt and rejection of you for your mindless daddy-abandonment issues driven choice. If we were on the Serengeti plains, I would tie you up and run across the to the other side of the predator’s territory. I would cross canyons and chasms to get away from you. If you followed me, I’d push you off a cliff. I want you to feel a deep and paralyzing, embarrassed shame that causes you to slink away and crawl under a rock in foetal realization that you’ve fucked up, while we take the opportunity to distance ourselves from you as quickly as we can.
Do you understand, “Women Going Their Own Way?” Take no, for an answer. Go away. You are unwanted and unwelcome. We reject you. Fuck off. Leave. Beat it. Scram. Go find an alligator to play with. Feed yourself to a hyena. Be an adult. Not only do we want you to mind your own business, but we want you to leave us to mind our own–that is the whole point of it, after all.
Want to be part of something? Think it up and build it yourselves you unoriginal, imaginationless, second-rate, me-too, copy-catting, bureaucratic, tag-along mother fuckers. Stealing big-people’s clothes and sneaking into a business meeting does not make you part of the company. Men aren’t your babysitting service, we’re not your boyfriends, we aren’t here to entertain you with new ideas. Doesn’t matter how much of a show you make of “not being like the women that men reject,” we reject you.
And think up your own name, while you’re at it.
I know you don’t feel like it, but you are poison. An infestation. Toxic to men who are simply trying to do their own thing. You are the one that little children point to and say “Look! A bad lady!” You are as bad as Feminists. For fuck’s sake. You call yourself “Women Going Their Own Way” while following ours.
I sincerely do not have the words to make my message so stabbingly personal that it will cause you to experience the emotional shock of realization that “I don’t belong here” to the degree that you permanently back off.
WGTOW: go away. Be men’s rights activists, be anti-feminists, create an equality movement for men and women on your own. Be separatists, isolationists, even. But please, stop trying to appropriate this exclusive men’s space, the space that we’ve created to get away from you.
This is what I want from you. Remove every page from your website save the index page. Have it read the following: “Real women respect men. We reject WGTOW.” I am requesting that you to do this today. I know, you’ve paid for the domain, and maybe the hosting. Do it anyway.
Create a new group. Women for women. Isolate yourselves from men. Find an island and go live on it. That’s fine. Be more than a me-too monkey. Dissociate in every possible way with Men Going Their Own Way, MGTOW.
I hope to have utterly discouraged you and have broken your heart from this project. Every word is sincere. Go away. That, or get ready to be pushed off the interpersonal cliff.
Addendum: That you think that MGTOW are doing this for fun shows how clueless you are. Your site is gyno-porn. You are masturbating womanhood in the hopes that other women will masturbate back at you. It is gynocentric back-patting, a circle-rub of “Ain’t we gals great?! Yes we are! Why? Because vagina!”
Have you bothered asking why men are going their own way? Because that way is anywhere other than where you are, you vapid monkey-children. Why are we getting away from you? Because your self-centred, gynocentrism makes you do selfish and stupid things that fuck us up and cause us pain. We aren’t MGTOW for fun, we are doing it to avoid the pain that you and your kind are and bring because of your very mindless me-too Girls Just Wanna Have Fun attitude.
Don’t be a Woman Going Her Own Way. Just GO away.
MGTOW is an observation, not a philosophy.
Look at all of those guys running out of burning buildings!
The house (relationships) is extremely flammable (potential legal threats), and men have either been burned or are unwilling to take the risk of being burned, so are choosing to live in the open air to mitigate the risk.
That’s the phenomenon. Nothing more.
We now have the me-too crowd of women who are attempting to figure out how they, too, can be part of this label-club. “We are strong, independent, fair and good people! Your club is popular! We want in! Let us appropriate your label!”
Women’s houses aren’t nearly as flammable, there’s no need for them to run to safety to avoid being burned. They are following men into the open spaces. It will only be a brief time until they start trying to build flammable houses around us. Cut it out!
MGTOW is not a tourist destination or a community; it is a refugee camp.
Only an idiot follows someone into a refugee camp when they have a perfectly safe home to go to. Stop trying to follow us.
Ladies and Gentlemen, let us be clear about something: if your intention is to live and express fairness and impartiality, if you want to demonstrate a sensitivity to men’s issues to be balanced, fair and impartial, go for it!
Here’s what I know.
You don’t need a label. You don’t need to call yourself WGTOW. Or Feminists. Or Egalitarian. You don’t need to call yourself anything.
Just be fair and impartial. If you are, we’ll notice. Trying to stand under a flag has nothing to do with being a good person.
Just be the good person you want the world to perceive you as by building a better world.
The MGTOW conversation zombie has returned. Can MGTOW be in a relationship with women, or not? What is MGTOW. Who is a true MGTOW?
I think that almost everyone is glossing over an essential point.
1. Look at all of those guys running out of burning buildings!
The house (relationships) is extremely flammable (potential legal threats), and men have either been burned or are unwilling to take the risk of being burned, so are choosing to live in the open air as a means to mitigate the risk.
That’s the phenomenon. Nothing more.
2. People are conflating observation with philosophical commentary, the discussion has moved from “A lot of men don’t live in houses” to “Let us expound on the best way to live.”
People are now attempting to use philosophy to explain how a man that chooses to live in a house is a man that doesn’t: If a man lives on the front porch, he’s not really in the house, now, is he? The front door is open, so he can run out if he must. Isn’t that the same as living out-doors? Simply having the choice to live out-doors is the same as doing it, isn’t it?
It is a slippery slope argument in the face of simple observation.
Evaluation of comfort/risk level, or wearing asbestos suits, being internally free or being self-determining are merely life philosophy, not the response of avoiding the threats that relationships can bring.
It certainly is useful to have discussions as to risk levels, and mental attitudes, but these aren’t the same as the observed response. To the degree that we conflate the two, we will only spin in circles. When we can clearly point out that we are discussing philosophy and nothing more, then a lot of the “What is MGTOW” arguments will vanish in a puff of smoke, and people will be able to say “Ah yes, your intangible philosophy is different than my intangible philosophy, and that’s OK.”
I welcome your thoughts.
Step 1: Create a video that portrays men as being Schrödinger’s Rapist.
Make sure that you get comments such as
Your the best Mark! That’s a rear man to share and due the right thing. I hope if my daughter was ever in a situation like this she finds such a gentleman!
Step 2: Expose it for the fraud that it is.
Step 3: Rub the noses of everyone who merely re-shared it without thinking.
Then keep on rubbing it in.
And just keep repeating the same message over and over: “Men are good.”