Those who are kind enough to read my blog know well that I follow a MGTOW path: I have made the decision to eschew certain kind of relationships as a means of legal self-protection, but that therein, I don’t necessarily agree with all the ideas put forth by other people who think about the matter.
I found that this one interlocutor exemplifies one popular line of thought, to the letter, to the tee, that I disagree with. This is exemplary of the kind of ideas that I refer to as ideological MGTOW.
I don’t agree with this line of thinking. I believe that it is merely a bad hypothesis of how the world works. These kind of arguments remind me of the kind of arguments made by racists and anti-Semites. ALL women are X. And bad. ALL men are under assault. There is no nuance.
So, I offer rebuttals.
“Most women are naturally inferior to men within most areas of advanced civilizations.”
Here’s where we have a flat-out disagreement. I’ve known and dated enough women to have tonnes of first-hand experience to the contrary.
“They therefore need/ want to parasite off men through government force (which feminism lobbies for).”
My belief is not that currently that many women need to, but have high-tech circumstances, combined with basic human nature that allows them to. Humans are lazy, greedy and selfish. Men, women, even monkeys will take a free ride if they can. Right now, men can’t, so we presume duty. Women now have that option, so they use it. Not all, but enough over a population of 7.something billion that it makes a difference.
“Most women are naturally amoral manipulative parasites.”
Most humans are.
“They must drag men down, in order to win; otherwise, most women could not compete with men through merit. Their inferiority causes a great deal of hostility to men.”
“Leftists are also inferior parasites, which must forcefully take from others. Inferiors will always want equal outcomes through government force. Governments are also parasites off productive economic activities.”
Do you realize that you’ve taken genetically similar creatures and just pushed your beliefs onto those with political beliefs?! You are looking for an over-arching Satan, when what you should be looking at is granular human monkey nature.
“In the future, these parasites will cause the economies of western nations to collapse through their parasitism. A collapsed economy means these parasites will starve, which will solve the problem. Nature and free-market economics always win.”
Because your ideological crystal ball has proven itself to be 100% accurate since forever, right?
By the way, I believe that free market economics will never win. The reason is very simple: Economics describes human activity, and humans are… stupid, lazy and greedy. That means “corrupt.” And we’ll always have the smart and aggressive and greedy who will have the drive to twist the system to their will. That’s why every large society that I know of is a mixed economy. A good part of it is just people doing business, but there’s always a state wanting to take its cut. If it could have been otherwise, it would be otherwise. Now.
Our system is in perfect conformance with human nature.
“The funny thing, men are already naturally opting-out or are being pushed out by inferior women demanding superior treatment.”
Yes, men are choosing to opt-out, because the system is not impartial, and many laws are unjust or unjustly applied. I believe in speaking out against them, and doing what I can to make practical changes. If you want to just opt-out, feel free.
“Negotiating is a waste of time,”
Of whose time? My experience is that if you speak to people in just the right way, that very often, they’ll recognize something they hadn’t before, and sometimes they decide to grow up.
The thing about living in a culture is that we take on the ideas of those next to us, and they to us. When we have similar ideas, we tend to confirm each others notions, because it’s the path of least resistance. Humans are lazy.
When you live in an environment where every man pays you to give away his dick, and every woman asserts that this is how it should be, do you not understand how a childish sense of entitlement can result? Then women recognize as they get older that their attractiveness fades, and fewer men are paying less to give them their dicks, and the flow dries up. Reality sets in, their world view is shaken, and they get angry and look for other ways to meet their needs. Marriage, children, etc. This is not a universal, it is merely too common.
You need to think about what is going on based on how reality works, not on what some ideologically oriented person told you it does. Based on my life experience, I can recognize right now that you are not thinking freely, you are repeating a self-comforting mantra.
“because women are far too illogical to see what they are doing. After the collapse, then the smart women and men can rebuild civilization, but the dumb ones need to reap what they have sown first. Smart men and women should not clean up the mess of the stupid people, until after they have departed.”
Do you understand that there are just as many dumb, greedy and lazy men as there are similar women? This has always been the case. There’s a reason why large human societies have been hierarchical. Those with drive, ambition, guts, energy, focus, and other factors such as callousness, indifference and a sense of entitlement have dominated those who do not have these traits?
You err in thinking that only men have X traits and that only women have Y traits. What you’ve said, I’ve head hundreds of times. To me, it sounds like the bitter whining of the wounded. You have every right to feel wounded, and you have the right to feel what you do. You even have the right to carry bad ideas around in your head. It would serve you better to first address your own wounds, then check your thinking, because right now, what I’m hearing from you is justification for your pain, not a path to peace of mind, and ultimately, a greater peace for all.